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but for the purposes of attacking the present oligarchy, he can certainly be made into a credible villain. The quote you use is enough by itself to think the man so.
But, in the broad sweep of history, my judgment at this time is that Biddle's fight to secure the re-chartering of the Bank of the United States was an attempt to preserve the Hamiltonian program of national banking. Thus far, I think Bray Hammond (who used to be the Secretary of the Fed's Board of Governors, back before Arthur Burns I believe, so he might not be all that bad) pretty much gets it right. Especially in Hammond's critique of Arthur Schlesinger's astonishingly sloppy treatment of Biddle (see Hammond’s article in the May 1947 Journal of Economic History, reprinted in Jackson versus Biddle, one of the “Problems in American Civilization” books put out by the Department of American Studies at Ameherst in the late 1940s).
Basically, what Hammond argues is that beyond the obvious of Jackson representing the Jeffersonian distrust of and hostility to Eastern bankers, the chaos that reigned in American banking after Jackson successfully denied the re-chartering of the Bank of the United States allowed a much-needed nth degree of freedom to the banking and finance in the rapidly developing west – which at the time, remember, included Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee, Kentucky, and so on. However, the habits, customs, and traditions that developed and calcified in the period from the 1830s to the 1850s clashed violently with what was required to mobilize the North’s economy for Civil War with the South in the 1860s. Here is Hammond in his smaller book, Sovereignty and an Empty Purse: Banks and Politics in the Civil War (pages 56-57):
“The government was in a state of impotence produced by conceptions of its duties which had become firmly established in Andrew Jackson's day, which had come to be taken for granted, and which now could not be dismissed instantly from most men's minds, as it could from Thaddeus Stevens'. In the intervening years, the Union had deferred to its component states time after time; and members of Congress, though legislators for the Union, seldom put second their sentimental and practical loyalties to the sovereign states of which some were ambassadors and to the local interests of which some were representatives. They remembered who elected them. They shrank from sending armies of federal tax-gatherers to violate state sovereignties; and while they cursed the rebels, swore to punish them, and voted for taxes, they chose measures that put off the dreaded break with the dear and happy past. They were not ready to do what was necessary to enlarge federal powers and reduce those of the states, except those states that sought to preserve slavery and leave the Union. They had grown up taught and believing that the federal government was the best in the world because it interfered with them so little. The Union had accepted faithfully and modestly the Jacksonian dictum, "the world is governed too much." And now it had to gird itself to restrain the intransigence of South Carolina and her sisters, without offending Kentucky, Ohio, New York, and others loyal to the Union.”
To continue, here is Hammond in his massive tome, Banks and Politics in America from the Revolution to the Civil War (excerpts from pages 719 to 722):
“Congress had been loud during a generation of debates on slavery and states9 rights; but otherwise the federal government had withdrawn into the modest performance of minor routines. It had turned virtuously away from the policies of Alexander Hamilton and neglected even the humane projects of Thomas Jefferson and Albert Gallatin. It had hesitated to assume responsibility for the Smithsonian Institution. Steamships had been crossing the ocean for thirty
years and navigating rivers and lakes, but the little American Navy was still largely under sail and very beautiful to look at. It had less than 10,000 officers and men. The Army had less than 20,000, which was about enough to watch the Indians.
“If this were all it might not have been bad, because it might reflect the pacific instincts of a noble people. What it reflected rather was pusillanimity. Departmental organization was antediluvian; the civil service belonged to the politicians; and the business administration of the government's affairs might as well have been direct,,~ from Kamchatka so little was it influenced by the energy, adaptability, and efficiency of the economic world around it. This was nowhere more conspicuous than in the fiscal and monetary responsibilities of the government, which were trailing so far behind the progressive world outdoors that they had barely braved the turn from the 18th century into the 19th made by the rest of creation sixty years before. One result of this, and perhaps the one most appalling, was that when Mr. Lincoln entered office in March 1861, confronted by the worst exigency, material as well as spiritual, in the country's experience -- an exigency requiring ships, guns, men, food, and all the needs of an immense physical effort – his Treasury was empty.
II
“It was this rudimentary state of federal powers that prolonged the war. The South's advantages were the North's unreadiness and inability to pull itself together, the decisiveness and energy of the southern leadership at the outset, and the military genius of General Robert E. Lee and his associates. Only one of these advantages was lasting. The advantages of the North were all lasting. She had the population, the wealth, the resources, the commerce, the equipment, the diversified productivity, and the diversified skills. If thewar were prolonged, she was bound to win. But the condition of the government was such when Mr Lincoln became President that she could win only if it were prolonged.
SNIP
“In only a matter of months, the war already had outlasted all expectation, the number of seceded states had increased from seven to eleven and disunion was menacing in three or four others; arsenals, Navy yards, custom houses, mints, ships, arms, and men had gone with secession. Fort Sumter had been given up, and the first battle of Bull Run had been lost. By December, when Congress met again, it was plain that far more money than had been supposed was going to be needed, and that more effectual means of getting it must be found. Harsh necessity required that the government and the economy be reunited; the happy divorce they had long enjoyed must end. The first step sadly taken toward this reunion was the stoppage of specie payments by the banks and the Treasury at the close of the year. Secretary Chase, instead of learning with surprise of the banks' suspension and then complaining ignorantly about it as his predecessor in President Van Buren's Cabinet had done in 1837, resignedly concurred in its inevitability. I
“The reform that was needed was both constitutional and practical. It must entail the undoing of two Jacksonian triumphs. Not only was the federal government obstructed, under the Jacksonian legacy, from exercising an essential function-it was forbidden to act normally and to its own advantage as a transactor in the economy. No meeting ground between a government and its people is of more vital importance than that of monetary payments; yet the federal government was denied the use of the money the people used. Any business corporation or individual could borrow at banks, but the government could not. Even in a time of terrible need, the Treasury was forbidden to touch the common means of payment, either as borrower, as payor, or as payee. It might have been confined, with less serious results, to ox carts for conveyance, to quill pens, and to candle light.
“This practical fencing-in was rendered suddenly intolerable by the war, which was also intensifying the anomaly of the federal government's impaired control over the monetary system. In terms of .the Constitution and of common sense, control of the monetary system irrefragably belonged to sovereignty and if there were any reason at all for federal union, no single one was more basic than that it was needed in order that it might supply the economy a uniform circulating medium.”
Echoes of what we face today! The idea that the world is governed too much has been pushed much too far (largely because of the financial oligarchy you discuss in the OP); deregulation has played no small part in creating the conditions of financial calamity in which we now find our nation. In fact, we must now deal with a population a full third of whom are openly hostile to the concept of “general welfare” embedded in the Constitution. The problem with consigning Biddle to the ranks of the evil financial oligarchy arises because there are different interpretations and beliefs of the best way to promote the general welfare. In his struggle with Jackson, was Biddle fighting for the Hamiltonian vision of spurring America to industrial and commercial greatness? Or was he serving only the narrow, selfish interests of himself and a coterie of fellow financiers? And what of Jackson? Was he driven entirely by his ideological aversion to powerful banks, or were his motives and intentions less than pure? I have before me the 1967 reprint of Thomas F. Gordon’s 1834 polemic, The War on the Bank of the United States which explains in part how Jackson supporters would profit handsomely from the termination of the Bank. The parallels with today should be obvious: look at the rich vein of material that Thomas Frank had to work with in his book The wrecking crew: how conservatives rule which explores the interplay between wrong-wing “free market” economic ideology, and the rapacious self-enrichment of Bush’s “have-mores.” In other words, what if Biddle were actually the Brooksley Born of his day, trying to salvage what he could of Hamilton’s scheme for national banking and a national currency?
I really cannot say with final certainty. I started looking at Lincoln’s Greenbacks as a possible map for where we have to go today, but found that almost all the material on the subject had been written by von Hayekian Austrian whack-jobs. When I came upon Hammond, it seemed to me I finally had found someone who understood that the principal objective of national fiscal, monetary, and economic policies should be to build the nation. Thus, in the end, we come down to what has all along been my special pet peeve about the economics profession today: policies and actions must be judged by the unapologetic moral test of nation building.
Looking at the official report, both initial claims and continuing unemployment claims went up last week. At least on the seasonally adjusted numbers did. The unadjusted numbers were slightly down.
I just checked the exhaustion rate, and it is now over 50%, a rate never before reached since records were kept. The number of people collecting EUC continues to climb, and now tens of thousands are at risk of exhausting even the extended benefits.
BTW, I think this Instapopulist article is on the shaky edge of being a troll.
how about which indicators can you say are on fire? Which ones imply we aren't bouncing along the bottom,or maintaining... bearing in mind the start of the recession data?
Where's that EI which would imply a true growth recovery back to before 2007?
:)
I do agree that the "cliff diving" definitely appears stopped and in case you missed it, pointed to a couple of very positive signs, that being industrial production and home sales.
that is interdependent - yada yada bullshit. Financial oligarchy wants China to grow so that we can re-inflate the bubble. The model is so desperate for cheap imports - got keep costs way down because wages are not going anywhere.
But I don't know how reliable the economic numbers are out of China. It sounds like they may be on the verge of a huge bubble themselves.
one you see the income to debt, the other is asset to debt.
It's a ratio, the absolute numbers do not change, so regardless of each ratio, Mary always has $20k worth of debt.
It's like a corporate balance sheet, let's say some corporation made $5B in gross profits and had $3B in expenses. Their net is still $2B but that doesn't change the absolute numbers in the first two figures.
Or say you are in your kitchen. You have a pint of ice cream, you have half of a pie. Now the ratio of ice cream to pie is 2:3. or 66% or 2/3.
But that ratio does not change the fact you have a pint of ice cream and half a pie.
Just because a corporation has net profits of $2B does not change the fact they had $5B in gross profits and $3B in expenses.
If only the public either had mandatory financial/economic history courses as part of their education.....
or all people could have extended memories, transferred from their elders right into their brain..
it's like each new generation has not experienced this same song and dance of take from the poor and give to the rich, wipe out those guilds/middle classes/merchants/workers....
that has been going on throughout history.
Very nice post midtowng. I think you must have been like me and didn't go to sleep when the class was shown all of those videos. (I loved 'em, it was the teacher who droned on like a bumbling bee!)
but that is not the part I am confused on. If Mary has a $20k credit card balance and $5k in her savings account, is she considered to have $20k of debt or $15k of debt?
Income inequality feeds this financial oligarchy. We are creating a feudalistic system. A two track economy: one where the aristocracy is ok and everybody else is struggling - not a very efficient system.
Well, supposedly the government trumps the lobbyists, i.e. corporate power but my impression is corporate power believes it is the government.
ya know frankly, I don't know what is in the bill and I do read legislation and the reason I do not is so many different versions. I do know those Committee chairs, esp. in the Senate, as well as Daschle has serious campaign contributions from these lobbyists...
But why these politicians won't kick them out...I just don't know what else to say except systemic massive corruption.
On illegals, I'm trying to point out that something which is completely dismissed and labeled "pants on fire lies" and "right wing radical crazies", not only is a huge issue with a large percentage of the American people...but is REAL. It's real by the $$$ and the way to see it is not through the health care reform bills but in other policy areas.
The government as well as states refuse to verify citizenship status, valid SS #, background check, immigration status, hence one has a large percentage of illegals obtaining benefits that are supposed to be denied. ...like jobs.
you have to dig into other policy areas to see the complaint and wala, there it is.
So, you've got a lot of rhetoric, no formal detailed plan, plus a huge "dis" to the real concerns of the people (not the manufactured ones by special interest groups and corporate generated MSM talking pundit du jour) ...
it's like TARP...they just tell the people "oh this was necessary" the "bonuses were necessary" and so on...
i.e. they lie to the American people and outrage brews, trust is blown.
Happens all of the time. Go to any townhall and ask a question on some issue that you know the details on and which your rep. is supporting some special interest group or agenda on...
they will deny that your facts exist...i.e. often it is claimed your facts are simply fiction, and you can sit there with research, statistics, 1000 pages of facts and these politicians will deny those statistics and facts anyway.
(Yes, pressuring Mexico to quit their wealth inequality and create their own middle class would be nice...but frankly the U.S. might have just beaten Mexico in income inequality with these new numbers!)
BTW: I think all of S. CA fills their prescriptions in Mexico and the same is true of Northern states in Canada...
so ya know, we cannot renegotiate with big pharma? No sireee, not only does big Pharma say not....Wall street is pretty insistent on keeping those health sector profits on maximum in the U.S....
I agree with your criticisms of the Obama administration's performance to date, although I sometimes wonder what kind of constraints a President is operating under that we don't know about, i.e. the ability of powerful elites to sabotage the economy and a presidency should he go "too far."
While I share a mistrust of government, I think people who oppose the public option are essentially trusting the obviously greater of two evils. Yes, government's altruistic purpose can be corrupted by money and corporate influence to design a flawed plan. But the alternative (insurance corporations) doesn't even need to be corrupted. It already is 100% greed with no altruistic component. That is it's essence.
And of course we should fight for a strong effective and well designed public option and not just settle for some corrupt garbage like the prescription drug bill. I am counting on the progressives in the House pressured by liberal activists to demand something decent.
Of course I think single payer would be better (and an easier sell - "medicare for all") but Obama took that off the table. Stupid move if you ask me. But now the battle seems to have come down to public option or no public option. At this point we need to play the hand that's been dealt.
I do not see how illegal immigrants play a part in this debate in any rational way. They are treated under the status quo in the most expensive way possible - emergency rooms. So if the expense of treating illegals is a big concern for some Glenn Beck fan, how does blocking any of the legislation currently under consideration reduce that expense one cent?
[To digress into the overall immigration issue, I'll bet if we could levy an extra tax on the top 0.1% that is tied directly to the amount of government services spent on immigrants from Mexico, we would see a big drop in immigration. I don't know the mechanics, but I'm sure that the poverty in Mexico that drives immigration results from corrupt policies that benefit wealthy elites in both countries. Until we improve our democracy enough to stop that stuff, basic human compassion would suggest we suck it up and not punish poor people trying to survive just because of where they were born.]
I am in agreement with you about funding healthcare primarily by taxing the super rich. I am not completely sold on DeLongs 15% HSAs. It seems like a pretty substantial burden for low income families barely scraping by. I think the HSA logic is based on the assumption that consumer discretion can lower prices, at least for non-essential services. The prime example of this is lasic surgery. It is not covered by insurance and its costs continue to go down in stark contrast to the rest of the healthcare world.
I am fully on board with fining the shit out of or even imprisoning the insurance crooks for the many scams they concoct to deny care. This would probably cut down on their overhead, most of which goes to this crap.
What are your thoughts on the general idea that insurance (including government insurance) has a natural tendency to drive up costs versus government directly providing healthcare having a cost minimizing effect by competing with private care? I really think that the VA provides a great model of excellent care and cost efficiency. Why not expand it beyond just veterans? miasmo.com
The impression of falling unemployment is going to fall apart just like the initial claims data already has when the August numbers come rolling in. Just wait.
We're the Populist site, anybody, feel free to raise some hell beyond public writing.
I have one also, I have a reporter who is looking to interview anyone who has taken unpaid furloughs, job salary, benefit cuts, demotions and so on trying to hang onto their job.
So, if anyone wants to do a "personal story", just hit the contact button and I will forward.
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but for the purposes of attacking the present oligarchy, he can certainly be made into a credible villain. The quote you use is enough by itself to think the man so.
But, in the broad sweep of history, my judgment at this time is that Biddle's fight to secure the re-chartering of the Bank of the United States was an attempt to preserve the Hamiltonian program of national banking. Thus far, I think Bray Hammond (who used to be the Secretary of the Fed's Board of Governors, back before Arthur Burns I believe, so he might not be all that bad) pretty much gets it right. Especially in Hammond's critique of Arthur Schlesinger's astonishingly sloppy treatment of Biddle (see Hammond’s article in the May 1947 Journal of Economic History, reprinted in Jackson versus Biddle, one of the “Problems in American Civilization” books put out by the Department of American Studies at Ameherst in the late 1940s).
Basically, what Hammond argues is that beyond the obvious of Jackson representing the Jeffersonian distrust of and hostility to Eastern bankers, the chaos that reigned in American banking after Jackson successfully denied the re-chartering of the Bank of the United States allowed a much-needed nth degree of freedom to the banking and finance in the rapidly developing west – which at the time, remember, included Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Tennessee, Kentucky, and so on. However, the habits, customs, and traditions that developed and calcified in the period from the 1830s to the 1850s clashed violently with what was required to mobilize the North’s economy for Civil War with the South in the 1860s. Here is Hammond in his smaller book, Sovereignty and an Empty Purse: Banks and Politics in the Civil War (pages 56-57):
“The government was in a state of impotence produced by conceptions of its duties which had become firmly established in Andrew Jackson's day, which had come to be taken for granted, and which now could not be dismissed instantly from most men's minds, as it could from Thaddeus Stevens'. In the intervening years, the Union had deferred to its component states time after time; and members of Congress, though legislators for the Union, seldom put second their sentimental and practical loyalties to the sovereign states of which some were ambassadors and to the local interests of which some were representatives. They remembered who elected them. They shrank from sending armies of federal tax-gatherers to violate state sovereignties; and while they cursed the rebels, swore to punish them, and voted for taxes, they chose measures that put off the dreaded break with the dear and happy past. They were not ready to do what was necessary to enlarge federal powers and reduce those of the states, except those states that sought to preserve slavery and leave the Union. They had grown up taught and believing that the federal government was the best in the world because it interfered with them so little. The Union had accepted faithfully and modestly the Jacksonian dictum, "the world is governed too much." And now it had to gird itself to restrain the intransigence of South Carolina and her sisters, without offending Kentucky, Ohio, New York, and others loyal to the Union.”
To continue, here is Hammond in his massive tome, Banks and Politics in America from the Revolution to the Civil War (excerpts from pages 719 to 722):
“Congress had been loud during a generation of debates on slavery and states9 rights; but otherwise the federal government had withdrawn into the modest performance of minor routines. It had turned virtuously away from the policies of Alexander Hamilton and neglected even the humane projects of Thomas Jefferson and Albert Gallatin. It had hesitated to assume responsibility for the Smithsonian Institution. Steamships had been crossing the ocean for thirty
years and navigating rivers and lakes, but the little American Navy was still largely under sail and very beautiful to look at. It had less than 10,000 officers and men. The Army had less than 20,000, which was about enough to watch the Indians.
“If this were all it might not have been bad, because it might reflect the pacific instincts of a noble people. What it reflected rather was pusillanimity. Departmental organization was antediluvian; the civil service belonged to the politicians; and the business administration of the government's affairs might as well have been direct,,~ from Kamchatka so little was it influenced by the energy, adaptability, and efficiency of the economic world around it. This was nowhere more conspicuous than in the fiscal and monetary responsibilities of the government, which were trailing so far behind the progressive world outdoors that they had barely braved the turn from the 18th century into the 19th made by the rest of creation sixty years before. One result of this, and perhaps the one most appalling, was that when Mr. Lincoln entered office in March 1861, confronted by the worst exigency, material as well as spiritual, in the country's experience -- an exigency requiring ships, guns, men, food, and all the needs of an immense physical effort – his Treasury was empty.
II
“It was this rudimentary state of federal powers that prolonged the war. The South's advantages were the North's unreadiness and inability to pull itself together, the decisiveness and energy of the southern leadership at the outset, and the military genius of General Robert E. Lee and his associates. Only one of these advantages was lasting. The advantages of the North were all lasting. She had the population, the wealth, the resources, the commerce, the equipment, the diversified productivity, and the diversified skills. If thewar were prolonged, she was bound to win. But the condition of the government was such when Mr Lincoln became President that she could win only if it were prolonged.
SNIP
“In only a matter of months, the war already had outlasted all expectation, the number of seceded states had increased from seven to eleven and disunion was menacing in three or four others; arsenals, Navy yards, custom houses, mints, ships, arms, and men had gone with secession. Fort Sumter had been given up, and the first battle of Bull Run had been lost. By December, when Congress met again, it was plain that far more money than had been supposed was going to be needed, and that more effectual means of getting it must be found. Harsh necessity required that the government and the economy be reunited; the happy divorce they had long enjoyed must end. The first step sadly taken toward this reunion was the stoppage of specie payments by the banks and the Treasury at the close of the year. Secretary Chase, instead of learning with surprise of the banks' suspension and then complaining ignorantly about it as his predecessor in President Van Buren's Cabinet had done in 1837, resignedly concurred in its inevitability. I
“The reform that was needed was both constitutional and practical. It must entail the undoing of two Jacksonian triumphs. Not only was the federal government obstructed, under the Jacksonian legacy, from exercising an essential function-it was forbidden to act normally and to its own advantage as a transactor in the economy. No meeting ground between a government and its people is of more vital importance than that of monetary payments; yet the federal government was denied the use of the money the people used. Any business corporation or individual could borrow at banks, but the government could not. Even in a time of terrible need, the Treasury was forbidden to touch the common means of payment, either as borrower, as payor, or as payee. It might have been confined, with less serious results, to ox carts for conveyance, to quill pens, and to candle light.
“This practical fencing-in was rendered suddenly intolerable by the war, which was also intensifying the anomaly of the federal government's impaired control over the monetary system. In terms of .the Constitution and of common sense, control of the monetary system irrefragably belonged to sovereignty and if there were any reason at all for federal union, no single one was more basic than that it was needed in order that it might supply the economy a uniform circulating medium.”
Echoes of what we face today! The idea that the world is governed too much has been pushed much too far (largely because of the financial oligarchy you discuss in the OP); deregulation has played no small part in creating the conditions of financial calamity in which we now find our nation. In fact, we must now deal with a population a full third of whom are openly hostile to the concept of “general welfare” embedded in the Constitution. The problem with consigning Biddle to the ranks of the evil financial oligarchy arises because there are different interpretations and beliefs of the best way to promote the general welfare. In his struggle with Jackson, was Biddle fighting for the Hamiltonian vision of spurring America to industrial and commercial greatness? Or was he serving only the narrow, selfish interests of himself and a coterie of fellow financiers? And what of Jackson? Was he driven entirely by his ideological aversion to powerful banks, or were his motives and intentions less than pure? I have before me the 1967 reprint of Thomas F. Gordon’s 1834 polemic, The War on the Bank of the United States which explains in part how Jackson supporters would profit handsomely from the termination of the Bank. The parallels with today should be obvious: look at the rich vein of material that Thomas Frank had to work with in his book The wrecking crew: how conservatives rule which explores the interplay between wrong-wing “free market” economic ideology, and the rapacious self-enrichment of Bush’s “have-mores.” In other words, what if Biddle were actually the Brooksley Born of his day, trying to salvage what he could of Hamilton’s scheme for national banking and a national currency?
I really cannot say with final certainty. I started looking at Lincoln’s Greenbacks as a possible map for where we have to go today, but found that almost all the material on the subject had been written by von Hayekian Austrian whack-jobs. When I came upon Hammond, it seemed to me I finally had found someone who understood that the principal objective of national fiscal, monetary, and economic policies should be to build the nation. Thus, in the end, we come down to what has all along been my special pet peeve about the economics profession today: policies and actions must be judged by the unapologetic moral test of nation building.
to compare bank failure fridays, just the failed banks to the # of failed S&Ls during the 1980's.
It's like this is so common, it doesn't even get much public attention.
Looking at the official report, both initial claims and continuing unemployment claims went up last week. At least on the seasonally adjusted numbers did. The unadjusted numbers were slightly down.
I just checked the exhaustion rate, and it is now over 50%, a rate never before reached since records were kept. The number of people collecting EUC continues to climb, and now tens of thousands are at risk of exhausting even the extended benefits.
BTW, I think this Instapopulist article is on the shaky edge of being a troll.
Here's the more detailed report.
The report you cite demonstrates the problem with raw YoY numbers.
Report
This down even from 2008 which was considered weak.
RebelCapitalist.com - Financial Information for the Rest of Us.
how about which indicators can you say are on fire? Which ones imply we aren't bouncing along the bottom,or maintaining... bearing in mind the start of the recession data?
Where's that EI which would imply a true growth recovery back to before 2007?
:)
I do agree that the "cliff diving" definitely appears stopped and in case you missed it, pointed to a couple of very positive signs, that being industrial production and home sales.
that is interdependent - yada yada bullshit. Financial oligarchy wants China to grow so that we can re-inflate the bubble. The model is so desperate for cheap imports - got keep costs way down because wages are not going anywhere.
But I don't know how reliable the economic numbers are out of China. It sounds like they may be on the verge of a huge bubble themselves.
RebelCapitalist.com - Financial Information for the Rest of Us.
That answers my question. Thanks.
miasmo.com
which goes on CNBC/Bloomberg while America sleeps.
They are all excited about the potential for "growth" from China....but they caution on how they must get Americans "consuming again".
It's unreal, the focus, including U.S. policy makers is all about us buying crap from overseas....
We're not here to help the Chinese economy...or is that how they look at us?
More evidence of flawed neo-liberal economic growth model. Asset price inflation and more debt replaced wage growth. ESPECIALLY FOR THE MIDDLE CLASS.
RebelCapitalist.com - Financial Information for the Rest of Us.
one you see the income to debt, the other is asset to debt.
It's a ratio, the absolute numbers do not change, so regardless of each ratio, Mary always has $20k worth of debt.
It's like a corporate balance sheet, let's say some corporation made $5B in gross profits and had $3B in expenses. Their net is still $2B but that doesn't change the absolute numbers in the first two figures.
Or say you are in your kitchen. You have a pint of ice cream, you have half of a pie. Now the ratio of ice cream to pie is 2:3. or 66% or 2/3.
But that ratio does not change the fact you have a pint of ice cream and half a pie.
Just because a corporation has net profits of $2B does not change the fact they had $5B in gross profits and $3B in expenses.
A little bit louder and a little big worse!
If only the public either had mandatory financial/economic history courses as part of their education.....
or all people could have extended memories, transferred from their elders right into their brain..
it's like each new generation has not experienced this same song and dance of take from the poor and give to the rich, wipe out those guilds/middle classes/merchants/workers....
that has been going on throughout history.
Very nice post midtowng. I think you must have been like me and didn't go to sleep when the class was shown all of those videos. (I loved 'em, it was the teacher who droned on like a bumbling bee!)
but that is not the part I am confused on. If Mary has a $20k credit card balance and $5k in her savings account, is she considered to have $20k of debt or $15k of debt?
miasmo.com
Income inequality feeds this financial oligarchy. We are creating a feudalistic system. A two track economy: one where the aristocracy is ok and everybody else is struggling - not a very efficient system.
RebelCapitalist.com - Financial Information for the Rest of Us.
Well, supposedly the government trumps the lobbyists, i.e. corporate power but my impression is corporate power believes it is the government.
ya know frankly, I don't know what is in the bill and I do read legislation and the reason I do not is so many different versions. I do know those Committee chairs, esp. in the Senate, as well as Daschle has serious campaign contributions from these lobbyists...
But why these politicians won't kick them out...I just don't know what else to say except systemic massive corruption.
On illegals, I'm trying to point out that something which is completely dismissed and labeled "pants on fire lies" and "right wing radical crazies", not only is a huge issue with a large percentage of the American people...but is REAL. It's real by the $$$ and the way to see it is not through the health care reform bills but in other policy areas.
The government as well as states refuse to verify citizenship status, valid SS #, background check, immigration status, hence one has a large percentage of illegals obtaining benefits that are supposed to be denied. ...like jobs.
you have to dig into other policy areas to see the complaint and wala, there it is.
So, you've got a lot of rhetoric, no formal detailed plan, plus a huge "dis" to the real concerns of the people (not the manufactured ones by special interest groups and corporate generated MSM talking pundit du jour) ...
it's like TARP...they just tell the people "oh this was necessary" the "bonuses were necessary" and so on...
i.e. they lie to the American people and outrage brews, trust is blown.
Happens all of the time. Go to any townhall and ask a question on some issue that you know the details on and which your rep. is supporting some special interest group or agenda on...
they will deny that your facts exist...i.e. often it is claimed your facts are simply fiction, and you can sit there with research, statistics, 1000 pages of facts and these politicians will deny those statistics and facts anyway.
(Yes, pressuring Mexico to quit their wealth inequality and create their own middle class would be nice...but frankly the U.S. might have just beaten Mexico in income inequality with these new numbers!)
BTW: I think all of S. CA fills their prescriptions in Mexico and the same is true of Northern states in Canada...
so ya know, we cannot renegotiate with big pharma? No sireee, not only does big Pharma say not....Wall street is pretty insistent on keeping those health sector profits on maximum in the U.S....
So the American people, the consumer suffer.
I agree with your criticisms of the Obama administration's performance to date, although I sometimes wonder what kind of constraints a President is operating under that we don't know about, i.e. the ability of powerful elites to sabotage the economy and a presidency should he go "too far."
While I share a mistrust of government, I think people who oppose the public option are essentially trusting the obviously greater of two evils. Yes, government's altruistic purpose can be corrupted by money and corporate influence to design a flawed plan. But the alternative (insurance corporations) doesn't even need to be corrupted. It already is 100% greed with no altruistic component. That is it's essence.
And of course we should fight for a strong effective and well designed public option and not just settle for some corrupt garbage like the prescription drug bill. I am counting on the progressives in the House pressured by liberal activists to demand something decent.
Of course I think single payer would be better (and an easier sell - "medicare for all") but Obama took that off the table. Stupid move if you ask me. But now the battle seems to have come down to public option or no public option. At this point we need to play the hand that's been dealt.
I do not see how illegal immigrants play a part in this debate in any rational way. They are treated under the status quo in the most expensive way possible - emergency rooms. So if the expense of treating illegals is a big concern for some Glenn Beck fan, how does blocking any of the legislation currently under consideration reduce that expense one cent?
[To digress into the overall immigration issue, I'll bet if we could levy an extra tax on the top 0.1% that is tied directly to the amount of government services spent on immigrants from Mexico, we would see a big drop in immigration. I don't know the mechanics, but I'm sure that the poverty in Mexico that drives immigration results from corrupt policies that benefit wealthy elites in both countries. Until we improve our democracy enough to stop that stuff, basic human compassion would suggest we suck it up and not punish poor people trying to survive just because of where they were born.]
I am in agreement with you about funding healthcare primarily by taxing the super rich. I am not completely sold on DeLongs 15% HSAs. It seems like a pretty substantial burden for low income families barely scraping by. I think the HSA logic is based on the assumption that consumer discretion can lower prices, at least for non-essential services. The prime example of this is lasic surgery. It is not covered by insurance and its costs continue to go down in stark contrast to the rest of the healthcare world.
I am fully on board with fining the shit out of or even imprisoning the insurance crooks for the many scams they concoct to deny care. This would probably cut down on their overhead, most of which goes to this crap.
What are your thoughts on the general idea that insurance (including government insurance) has a natural tendency to drive up costs versus government directly providing healthcare having a cost minimizing effect by competing with private care? I really think that the VA provides a great model of excellent care and cost efficiency. Why not expand it beyond just veterans?
miasmo.com
at work.
The impression of falling unemployment is going to fall apart just like the initial claims data already has when the August numbers come rolling in. Just wait.
We're the Populist site, anybody, feel free to raise some hell beyond public writing.
I have one also, I have a reporter who is looking to interview anyone who has taken unpaid furloughs, job salary, benefit cuts, demotions and so on trying to hang onto their job.
So, if anyone wants to do a "personal story", just hit the contact button and I will forward.
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